May 05, 2025 Lockhart ISD Board of Trustees Special Meeting

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I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE LOCKHART INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD OF TRUSTEES TO ORDER ON MAY 5TH,

[Call to Order]

TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CHAPTER 551. LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT TRUSTEES LOCKHART, CHARLES, RAYOS, PULLIAM, SANCHEZ, AND WRIGHT ARE PRESENT. WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANYBODY HERE TO SIGN UP. NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR.

[Consider and/or Approve the LHS Stadium Turf Replacement]

MS. HOLMAN. GOOD EVENING BOARD. GOOD EVENING, MR. ESTRADA. TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE LHS STADIUM TURF REPLACEMENT.

BACK IN JANUARY, I BROUGHT TO YOU THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT REPLACING THE TURF BECAUSE OUR TURF WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD.

AND IT'S AT THAT TIME, IT'S AT THE END OF ITS WARRANTY.

AND OF COURSE, FOR THE SAFETY OF OUR KIDS, WE FEEL WE REALLY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT AND REPLACE IT.

WE DID GO OUT FOR A BID. WE RECEIVED SEVEN PROPOSALS, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF GOOD CONTENDERS FOR SURE.

WE ACTUALLY INTERVIEWED THREE AND WITH A COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE ACTUALLY, WHERE'S THE WHERE'S THE CLICKER? I HAVE IT.

OH. SO THIS IS THE DESIGN THAT WAS KIND OF PUT TOGETHER AFTER SEVERAL OTHER DISPLAYS FROM THE VENDORS, PLUS JUST SOME COMMENTS BASED ON THE COMMITTEE. SO WHAT HAS CHANGED IN THIS DESIGN FROM OUR EXISTING TURF IS THAT WE HAVE PUT LOCKHART IN THE END ZONES INSTEAD OF LIONS. WE HAVE ALSO CHANGED THE CENTER TO BE FROM AN LL TO A UN, A LEAPING LION.

WE HAVE ALSO ADDED THE WORDS LIONS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TURF THAT'S FACING THE CROWD.

AND WE HAVE ALSO JUST SOME MINOR OTHER CHANGES.

WE'VE CHANGED OUR SOCCER LINES TO BE BLACK INSTEAD OF GOLD AS THEY ARE TODAY.

ALSO, THE MARKINGS ON THE FIELD WERE OUTLINED IN BLACK, THE NUMBERS.

BUT WE WENT WITH A MORE SIMPLE DESIGN ALONG WITH THE FACT THAT OUR CURRENT FIELD IS ALSO HAS AN ALTERNATING GREEN COLOR, AND THIS IS SOLID GREEN TO LOOK MORE LIKE GRASS.

ISN'T IT A PRETTY DESIGN? YEAH. IT'S NICE. VERY NICE.

NICE. DO YOU LIKE THE LION? YEAH, I LIKE THE LION, TOO.

YAY! LOCKHART LIONS. DID YOU PUT MY NAME ON IT? YOU LIKE THAT TOO? OH, YEAH. YOU'RE GOING TO PAY FOR IT ALL.

TWO TIMES HE'S GOING TO CHEER ON THE SIDES, RIGHT? SO NEXT THING I'D LIKE TO JUST KIND OF DISCUSS WITH YOU WAS THE ACTUAL PROPOSALS THAT WE HAD AND THE ACTUAL ONE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH. I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A SAMPLE OF THE TURF THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GO WITH HERE ON THE CORNER ALONG WITH THE COLORS AND STUFF AND THE MAROON COLOR, I KIND OF PULLED UP. THERE'S A LITTLE TWO SHADES OF MAROON, BUT THE DARKER ONE IS THE ONE THAT WE'LL BE USING FROM THAT.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE BID TABULATION WE HAD, LIKE I SAID, WE HAD SEVEN PROPOSALS.

AND REALLY ALL OF THESE TURFS WERE VERY GOOD PRODUCTS IN THAT REGARD.

SO IN THE TOP PART, IT ACTUALLY LISTS WHAT THE BASE PROPOSAL WAS, AND THAT'S WHAT OUR SPECIFICATIONS LISTED OR EXPECTED THE VENDOR TO BID TOWARDS WITH THE NAME OF THE TURF. THEN WE LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL PUTTING A PAD ON IT.

WE DO HAVE A PAD TODAY, BUT THERE'S A GOOD POSSIBILITY WHEN WE REMOVE THE TURF THAT WE MAY NEED TO REPLACE THAT PAD.

SO WE MEET THE G MAX RATING THAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO.

SO WE HAVE WE ASKED FOR THE COST FOR THE ACTUAL PAD ITSELF.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAD SOME VENDORS, NOT ALL VENDORS, BUT SOME VENDORS THAT ACTUALLY GAVE US SOME ALTERNATE PROPOSALS, WHETHER THEY DID A STEP UP FROM THE, FROM THE BASE TURF OR IF THEY IN THEIR PRICE, ADDED SOME TYPE OF COOLING MECHANISM. THERE ARE SOME VENDORS THAT DO HAVE A COOLING MECHANISM THAT YOU PUT INSIDE WITH THE RUBBER AND STUFF

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WE HAVE $35,000 IN CONTINGENCY JUST IN CASE SOMETHING WERE TO COME UP.

WE HAVE SOME EXTRA MONEY SITTING THERE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. IF FOR SOME REASON WE DO NOT USE IT FOR ANYTHING, IT DOES COME BACK TO THE DISTRICT. OKAY. THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR MAINTENANCE COSTS.

SO BASICALLY, WHAT WOULD IT COST FOR THE COMPANY TO PROVIDE US A MAINTENANCE PROGRAM ON A YEARLY BASIS.

AND THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN OUR WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S IN OUR BUDGET ON A YEARLY BASIS FOR WHICHEVER ONE WE ACTUALLY WANTED TO GO WITH.

BUT THE COMMITTEE, AFTER REVIEWING AND INTERVIEWING THREE OF THE TOP CONTENDERS HAS HAD HAVE DECIDED ON THE HILLIS CONSTRUCTION HELIX MATRIX. SO WE ACTUALLY WENT WITH THE ALTERNATE FOR HILLIS PLUS THE BROCH PAD AT THE 110,000. WE ALSO ADDED THE ECO THERM AGAIN, WHICH IS THE COOLING MECHANISM UNDER HILLIS.

AND WITH THAT, THEY DID GIVE US AN ADDITIONAL DISCOUNT WHEN WE TRANSITIONED TO THAT AS WELL.

AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL COST FOR THE COST OF THE BONDS, THE CONTINGENCY AND THE MAINTENANCE COSTS FOR THE FIRST YEAR.

AND SO WE WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER APPROVING OUR RECOMMENDATION OF HILLAS CONSTRUCTION FOR $827,000. AND THIS DOES REQUIRE A BUDGET AMENDMENT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY THOUGHTS? SO IF ONCE THE TURF HAS BEEN REMOVED AND THE PAD IS FOUND.

THE EXISTING PAD IS FOUND TO BE OKAY. THE ACTUAL COST WILL BE SOMEWHAT LOWER THAN THAT.

YES, SIR. WE WOULD DEDUCT THAT $110,000. YES, SIR.

IT TO CREATE A SOCCER SPACE FOR STRAWN ELEMENTARY.

SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THE VENDOR AS WELL TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THERE.

SORRY, KEVIN IS POINTING AT ME. YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY.

TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THERE, TO REPURPOSE THAT WITH THE RUBBER AND EVERYTHING AND MAKE THAT SPACE USABLE FOR THOSE KIDS OUT THERE.

SO THAT'S THE GOAL. I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

ONE WHAT IS THE COOLING AGENT? WHAT DOES THAT DO? SO THE COOLING AGENT YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT THE TURF PERSON, SO I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST.

BUT THE COOLING AGENT IS AN AGENT THAT YOU'VE ACTUALLY PUT INSIDE WITH THE RUBBER.

AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO KIND OF TAKE AWAY SOME OF THAT HEAT THAT THE SUN PROVIDES DOWN ON THE TURF AND BASICALLY PULLS IT OFF. AND WE HAVE TALKED TO SEVERAL OTHER DISTRICTS AND STUFF IN REGARDS TO SEE IF THEY ACTUALLY SAW THE BENEFIT OF THAT COOLING AGENT. AND WE HAD A LOT OF REVIEWS SAYING THAT THEY REALLY FELT IT WAS ABOUT 20 DEGREES COOLER THAN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE IT ON THERE, AND IT WAS JUST THE BLACK RUBBER. DOES THAT EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE TURF AT ALL? NO. OKAY. MY SECOND QUESTION WAS AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE, IF WE SEE POOLING OR BUBBLING YOU SAID THAT THEY WOULD COME OUT AND LOOK AT THAT.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN THIS BID WE, WHICH IS IT'S NOT LISTED HERE BECAUSE IT'S IN THEIR COSTS.

BUT WE ACTUALLY DID ASK FOR A ONE OF THE LAWN SPREADERS PER SE.

IT'S I'M NOT USING THE CORRECT WORDS RIGHT NOW.

BUT BASICALLY, IT'S ONE OF THE MACHINES THAT WE'LL PUT BEHIND ONE OF THE GATORS AND WE'LL RUN IT ACROSS THE TURF THAT WILL SPREAD ALL THE STUFF BACK OUT AGAIN TO WHERE IT DOESN'T PULL UP IN THAT REGARD. ON THE MAINTENANCE SIDE OF THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT, THAT'S A ONE YEAR THING THAT THEY'LL COME AND BASICALLY DO, LIKE A FULL MAINTENANCE ON OUR TURF TO GET IT READY FOR THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR AND STUFF.

HOWEVER, IF WE DID HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PERFORMING LIKE WE NEED TO OR WE NEED A, YOU KNOW, SOME HELP WITH THAT, THEY CERTAINLY WOULD COME OUT AND DO THAT. BUT WE WILL HAVE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE CAN DO IT OURSELVES.

EXCELLENT. AND THEN DRAINAGE, ANY DRAINAGE THINGS THAT THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF? WE CURRENTLY DO NOT NOTICE ANY DRAINAGE WITH OUR TURF AND THE WAY IT DRAINS TODAY.

THERE'S BEEN NO POOLING, NO WATER STANDING TO WHERE WE ACTUALLY SEE THE RUBBER KIND OF FLOATING AWAY AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM. HOWEVER, WE DID CONFIRM WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE INTERVIEWS THAT IF WHEN THEY PULL THINGS OFF AND THEY SEE THAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING, WILL THEY ADDRESS THOSE AT THAT TIME? YES. ON THE YOU HAVE A KUSH DRAIN 19MM, AND THEN YOU HAVE A BROCK

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OR IS IT JUST ONE? NO. SO IT'S THE 110,000 IS THE BROCK PAD.

AND THEN THE KUSH DRAIN WAS 213,000. THOSE ARE TWO SEPARATE ONES.

WHAT THEY ACTUALLY BID IN THE ACTUAL BASE BID.

THE KUSH DRAIN WAS A WAS AN ALTERNATE. IT'S ANOTHER TYPE OF PAD.

OKAY. SO WE'RE GETTING THE. THE BROCK. THE BROCK PAD.

YES, SIR. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO.

THOSE TWO SPECIFICALLY THE KUSH DRAIN, IT SPECIFICALLY IS LAID OUT LIKE ASPHALT, WHEREAS THE BROCK PAD ISN'T.

I ACTUALLY DIDN'T BRING IS AN ACTUAL JUST A PAD LIKE I CAN PHYSICALLY CARRY IT, YOU KNOW? BUT THE KUSH DRAIN, THEY ACTUALLY PUSH OUT LIKE ASPHALT.

SO IT WOULD BE ALL TOGETHER AND THEY WOULD DO IT.

SO THAT'S WHY IT COSTS SO MUCH MORE TO. YEAH.

YES, SIR. YES, MA'AM. WHAT WAS THE COST WHEN WE FIRST STARTED DOING HAVING TURF ON OUR FIELD? WAS IT CHEAPER THAN THE 827 OR MORE? WELL OKAY.

SO WHEN WE ORIGINALLY WENT OUT FOR BID BACK IN 2007, RIGHT.

WHEN WE PUT THE ORIGINAL TURF IN, I WANT TO SAY, BECAUSE I'M GOING OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT. I THINK WE ENDED UP SPENDING A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION.

YEAH, WHEN WE DID IT, BECAUSE OF COURSE WE HAD TO DO THE WHOLE.

WE HAD TO DO THE EVERYTHING. WE HAD TO DO ALL OF THE ROCK LAYER? YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO PUT ALL THE SUB BASS DOWN EVERYTHING BEFORE WE ACTUALLY DID THE TURF.

THIS IS OUR FIRST REPLACEMENT. OKAY, SO EVERYTHING UNDERNEATH SHOULD BE GOOD.

WE'RE HOPING THAT'S THE PLAN. AND THEN THEN WE'LL JUST.

WE'LL SEE WHAT THE IF, WHAT THE WHAT AM I SAYING? WHAT THE SHOCK PAD LOOKS LIKE. AND IF WE CAN KEEP THAT ON THERE, WE WILL IF WE CAN.

THE START OF THE PROCESS WAS JUST MORE BECAUSE YOU'RE STARTING.

YEAH. GOT IT.

YES. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. NO MORE. ANY QUESTIONS? DO I HEAR A MOTION? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF THE, BUT IT DIDN'T SAY I'M GOING TO ADD HILLIS TURF BECAUSE IT DIDN'T REALLY INDICATE ON THE MOTION. IS THAT OKAY TO ADD THAT? SURE. IN RFP 25-003 FOR LOCKHART HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM TURF REPLACEMENT AS PRESENTED AND AMEND THE 2024-2025 GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 6 TO 0. THANK YOU, MISS HOLMAN.

THANK YOU. WE'LL GO BACK TO ITEM THREE. COMMUNICATION, A.

[2025-2026 Staffing and Budget Session]

GOOD EVENING, SCHOOL BOARD AND MR. ESTRADA. TONIGHT IS THE SECOND BUDGET WORKSHOP.

YOU HAVE A BINDER THAT HAS ALL OF THE INFORMATION FROM LAST TIME.

AND THEN THE NEW PRESENTATION IS UNDER TAB THREE.

SHOUT OUT TO MY TEAM OF TINA, BRANDI AND MELISSA WHO HELPED PUT THIS BINDER TOGETHER.

AND IT'S NICE AND ORGANIZED FOR Y'ALL. OKAY, SO WE ARE AT OUR SECOND BUDGET WORKSHOP FOR THE 2526 FISCAL YEAR. FIRST AND FOREMOST, JUST WANT TO SEND A HUGE THANK YOU TO EVERYTHING THAT Y'ALL DID.

TO SUPPORT THE PASSAGE OF BOND 2025. REALLY APPRECIATE.

APPRECIATE ALL THE FACTS. GOING OUT. I KNOW Y'ALL HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND JUST REALLY GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT WITH SUCH A SUCCESSFUL BOND PASSAGE, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS AND WHAT THIS SCHOOL BOND WILL BRING FOR OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS. OKAY, SO THIS EVENING, THE FIRST THING THAT WE'LL GO OVER IS WE'LL LOOK THROUGH THE STAFFING REQUEST FOR 2526. WE'LL TALK AGAIN ABOUT LION CARE. CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION FROM WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME.

WE'LL LOOK AT OUR 25-26 COMPENSATION PLAN. BUDGET SUMMARY, QUICK TAX RATES.

AND THEN WE SHOULD BE GOOD TO CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAY.

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AND THAT'S BECAUSE 80% OF OUR BUDGET IS OUR EMPLOYEES.

AND SO THIS IS A GOAL THAT WE REALLY HAVE PUT AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE PLANNING WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMPENSATION, OUR BENEFITS PACKAGE AND EVERYTHING FOR 25-26.

THANK YOU. WE'RE IN THE 89TH SESSION OF THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE.

SO I AM SURE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SEEING SOME OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING ON THE NEWS.

AND I JUST WANT. WE TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT A HOUSE BILL TWO, WHICH IS A BIG FINANCE BILL.

THAT SCHOOL FINANCE BILL THAT IS HAS MOVED THROUGH THE HOUSE AND THE THINGS THAT WERE ON IT.

A COUPLE OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN. IT WAS A $200 BASIC ALLOTMENT INCREASE.

NOW IT IS A $3.95 BASIC ALLOTMENT INCREASE, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS.

IT DOES INVOLVE ALL OF THESE NEW ITEMS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME, HAS THE POTENTIAL OF NOW $2.9 MILLION IN NEW FUNDS FOR LOCKHART ISD. THIS HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED. THE NEXT STEP IS IT'S WAITING IN THE SENATE TO BE ASSIGNED A COMMITTEE HEARING.

SO THEY HAVEN'T STARTED CONFERENCE COMMITTEE? SO. I JUST THINK THAT'S A THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT NOTE THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER, CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT. YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE HOPEFUL AND OPTIMISTIC THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CERTAINLY CONSIDER.

YEAH. I THINK THIS IS A PERFECT TIME TO ADVOCATE EMAIL SENATOR ZAFFIRINI AND HER COLLEAGUES TO GET THIS THING SCHEDULED. ABSOLUTELY. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BUDGET, WE DO TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF HOUSE BILL TWO.

BUT I SHOW I'LL SHOW AT THE END BOTH SCENARIOS OF HOUSE BILL TWO DOES NOT MAKE IT MAKE IT THROUGH THIS YEAR, THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, OR IF THEY MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THE BILL PASSED WHERE IT'S AT NOW.

CONTINUING ON FROM LAST TIME, OUR INSTRUCTIONAL STAFFING FOR OPENING UP BORCHERT LOOP.

THESE ARE THE SPECIAL EDUCATION POSITIONS ON THE INSTRUCTIONAL SIDE THAT WILL BE NEEDED FOR NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS ONE FL TEACHER AND THE STIPEND FOR THAT TEACHER, A REDIRECTION TEACHER, THE STIPEND FOR THAT TEACHER AND TWO FOUNDATIONAL LEARNING INSTRUCTIONAL AIDES TO SUPPORT THE FL, THE FL CLASSROOM.

THE TOTAL FOR THOSE POSITIONS IS 226,000. AND THEN ON THE NON-INSTRUCTIONAL STAFFING SIDE FOR BORCHERT LOOP IS ONE DIAGNOSTICIAN AND ONE SPEECH PATHOLOGIST.

IN ADDITION, IS ALSO FOUR CUSTODIANS. NOW THESE ARE CONTRACTED POSITIONS, BUT I WANTED TO INCLUDE THEM ON HERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT IT TO JUST GET LOOPED UP IN OUR CONTRACT WITH SSE. I WANTED YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT WE WERE ADDING UP FOUR ADDITIONAL CUSTODIANS AND THE EQUIPMENT AND THE SUPPLIES.

I'M SORRY THAT GO WITH THOSE WITH THAT SCHOOL.

TO THE CONTRACT. SO WE'RE NOT TAKING THE THAT CONTRACT TONIGHT.

BUT I DID WANT TO BRING THAT FORWARD THAT THAT'S WHAT THE SCHOOL WILL OPEN WITH.

A FEW ADDITIONAL ITEMS OF IMPORTANCE FOR THE DISTRICT IS AT LDMC FOCUSING ON, WE'RE TRANSITIONING THE LEAD TEACHER POSITION TO AN AP ROLE. CHANGING THAT LEADERSHIP POSITION THERE.

SO I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INSTRUCTIONAL AIDES AT LDMC, SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, LAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ENSURING THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE AND APPROPRIATE STAFFING AT LDMC SO THAT AS OUR CAMPUS ADMINISTRATORS ARE MAKING DISCIPLINARY DECISIONS, THAT A LACK OF STAFFING OR ROOM IS NOT PART OF THE CRITERIA THAT WE WANT TO EQUIP.

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AND WE THINK THIS IS A CRITICAL STEP OF ENSURING THAT WE'RE EMPOWERING OUR AND OUR ADMINISTRATORS TO DISCIPLINE STUDENTS APPROPRIATELY.

THE NEXT ITEM IS A LEVER LEADER STIPEND AT THE JUNIOR HIGH.

AND SO THIS IS JUST THE STIPEND. IT'S 10,000.

AND THEN WE TAKE OUR TOTAL FOR OUR INSTRUCTIONAL STAFFING, OUR NON-INSTRUCTIONAL STAFFING FOR A TOTAL PROPOSED STAFFING OF 721,000.

AS WE MOVE FORWARD THROUGHOUT THE FOR PLANNING FOR 2526 ON THE LEVER LEADER STIPEND.

SO THIS IS CONTINUED KIND OF SUPPORT AND EXPANSION IN IN THESE LEADERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.

THIS WILL NOT INCREASE THE BUDGET ANY OTHER WAY BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT CURRENT VACANT POSITIONS.

AND AS WE FILL THEM PROVIDING LEADERSHIP OPPORTUNITY IN FORM OF A STIPEND.

SO IT WON'T COST US ANY MORE MONEY ON THE BUDGET.

OKAY, ON TO EMPLOYEE BENEFITS, SPECIFICALLY LION CARE.

JUST THIS IS JUST A REMINDER SLIDE OF WHERE WE WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT WHERE WE FELL WITHIN THE DISTRICT SURROUNDING US AS FAR AS MONTHLY PREMIUMS FOR BOTH OUR PORTION, WHICH IS OUR BENEFIT THAT WE PAY FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION, AND THEN DEDUCTIBLES AND OUT-OF-POCKET MAXES FOR THE DISTRICTS ALL AROUND US.

BEFORE WE GO INTO IT, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE.

I TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME, BUT I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THE DIFFERENCE OF LION CARE.

SO WHEN WE COMPARE OURSELVES, LION CARE TO ALL THESE OTHER FULLY INSURED PLANS, THERE'S JUST SOME THINGS IN THE FULLY INSURED PLANS THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT WE HAVE. KPP FREE IS THE MAIN ONE, AND THIS IS OUR ENHANCED BENEFIT WHERE AN EMPLOYEE CAN GET FULL SERVICES AT ZERO COST, WHETHER THAT'S IMAGING CERTAIN SURGERIES, IF THEY GO THROUGH THE SURGICAL CENTERS THAT ARE THROUGH KPP FREE AND SO THIS IS A BENEFIT THAT IS VERY, VERY HUGE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, DEDUCTIBLES AND OUT-OF-POCKET MAXES DON'T EVEN THEY'RE NOT AFFECTED BECAUSE IT IS FREE.

NOT EVEN A CO-PAY. SO THAT IS A HUGE ENHANCED BENEFIT.

WE ALSO HAVE A ZERO COST ENDOCRINOLOGY PROGRAM THROUGH COMPLETE MEDICINE WHERE IF YOU HAVE ANY ENDOCRINE NEED, ENDOCRINOLOGY NEED IT IS FREE FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AS WELL.

SO IT'S NOT JUST DIABETES. IT CAN ALSO BE THYROID OR PCOS AND ANY OTHER ENDOCRINE NEED THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED.

IS IT ZERO COST TO OUR EMPLOYEES. SO A NO CO-PAY, ZERO COST PROGRAM.

WE DO NOT REQUIRE SPECIALISTS TO HAVE A REFERRAL FROM A PRIMARY CARE PHYSICIAN.

SO IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU NEED TO GO TO A DERMATOLOGIST, YOU CAN GO TO A DERMATOLOGIST.

YOU DON'T NEED TO GO TO A PRIMARY CARE. TAKE YOUR TIME AND YOUR COPAY TO GO AND GET THIS REFERRAL.

YOU CAN JUST CALL A DERMATOLOGIST AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT.

WE ALSO HAVE A PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGER. PART OF BEING ABLE TO RUN AND MANAGE OUR OWN PROGRAM IS THAT WE GET OUR PHARMACY BENEFIT MANAGER, AND THEY'RE WORKING FOR BOTH US AND OUR MEMBERS.

AND THAT HAS BEEN REALLY A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE AND OPPORTUNITY, BECAUSE IT IS A HUGE PART OF OUR PLAN IS OUR PHARMACEUTICAL.

AND WE HAVE OUT-OF-NETWORK COVERAGE. MOST FULLY INSURED PLANS ARE GOING TO HAVE OUT-OF-NETWORK COVERAGE.

IF THE DOCTOR'S NOT IN NETWORK, YOU CANNOT GO THERE.

BUT WE DON'T. WE WHILE WE DO HAVE A NETWORK OF DOCTORS, WE DON'T NOT ALLOW YOU TO GO TO SOMEONE THAT IS OUT OF NETWORK.

IT MIGHT TAKE AN EXTRA PHONE CALL. IT MIGHT TAKE A REIMBURSEMENT IF YOU PAY CASH TO GO AND THEN WE REIMBURSE YOU.

BUT WE DO HAVE OUT OF NETWORK COVERAGE. OKAY, SO AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE PREMIUMS ONLY. THIS IS WHAT OTHER DISTRICTS ARE HAVING.

THIS IS WHAT US AND OTHER DISTRICTS ARE HAVING.

EMPLOYEES PAY ON PREMIUM ONLY FOR THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF COVERAGE.

WHETHER YOU HAVE EMPLOYEE ONLY, EMPLOYEE, SPOUSE, EMPLOYEE PLUS CHILDREN AND EMPLOYEE PLUS FAMILY.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE PULLED WHAT ALL THOSE DISTRICTS ARE DOING THIS YEAR RIGHT NOW AND WHERE WE FALL,

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AND THEN THAT DIFFERENCE OF THE AVERAGE. SO WHEN WE SEE THAT WE'RE THAT FAR AWAY FROM THE AVERAGE, WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT BALANCING, WHY WE'RE NOT BALANCED WITHIN THE PLAN, BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY BELOW, REALLY BELOW THE MARKET ON OUR HEALTH CARE. WE TALKED LAST TIME ABOUT WHAT THE PREMIUM OPTIONS COULD BE ON THE AVERAGE EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION. AND I'LL GO BACK REALLY QUICKLY TO THIS SLIDE.

THE EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION IS WHAT THE DISTRICT PUTS IN EVERY MONTH AS THE BENEFIT FOR THE EMPLOYEES.

THE AVERAGE OF THOSE DISTRICTS IS $452 AND WE'RE AT 427.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE WOULD GO UP TO THE AVERAGE, WHICH IS WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR AS A DISTRICT.

WE WENT UP TO THE AVERAGE, WHICH AT THAT TIME WAS 427.

NOW THE AVERAGE IS 452. IF WE GO UP TO 452, IT'S $25 MORE A MONTH PER EMPLOYEE THAT THE DISTRICT WOULD BE PUTTING IN TOWARDS THEIR BENEFIT FOR THEIR HEALTH PLAN, AND THAT WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO $225,000 TO THE LION CARE PLAN.

AN AVERAGE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY IN WITH FROM THOSE SURROUNDING DISTRICTS IS $64 A MONTH.

SO IF THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTED $50 A MONTH, THAT WOULD ADD $450,000 TO THE PLAN.

SO THE PROPOSAL FOR 2526 IS THAT THE EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE THE AVERAGE AT 452, GENERATING THAT 225,000, AND THAT THE EMPLOYEE CONTRIBUTION WOULD BE $50 A MONTHLY PREMIUM FOR EMPLOYEES, WHICH WOULD STILL BE $14 BELOW THE CURRENT AVERAGE, NOT INCLUDING WHAT ANY TYPE OF CHANGES THEY MIGHT ALSO BE MAKING THIS YEAR GOING INTO 2526.

THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE. YOU DO HAVE IT PRINTED FOR YOU.

WHAT I WANT WHAT'S UP TOP HERE IN THIS ONE IS THE CONTRIBUTION OF LION CARE FOR 24-25.

AND IT SHOWS WHAT EMPLOYEES ARE CONTRIBUTING FOR THEIR OWN FOR IF THEY HAVE THEIR SPOUSE, IF THEY HAVE THEIR CHILDREN, AND IF THEY HAVE THEIR OR IF THEY HAVE THEIR FAMILY, WHAT THEIR MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION IS NOW FOR THOSE PREMIUMS, WHAT THE REGIONAL AVERAGE IS. AND THEN WHERE THAT DIFFERENCE IS.

SO BELOW IS BELOW. THAT IS THE PROPOSED PREMIUM CHANGES FOR NEXT YEAR FOR THOSE DIFFERENT TIERS OF EMPLOYEE ONLY EMPLOYEE PLUS CHILDREN, EMPLOYEE PLUS SPOUSE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

WE HAVE 558 EMPLOYEES ON EMPLOYEE ONLY PLAN. WE HAVE SEVEN EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ON EMPLOYEE PLUS SPOUSE.

WE HAVE 146 EMPLOYEES ON EMPLOYEE PLUS CHILDREN, AND WE HAVE 28 FAMILIES ON THE EMPLOYEES ON THE EMPLOYEE PLUS FAMILY PLAN.

THE MAIN ONE IS EMPLOYEE PLUS CHILDREN. THE WELL, THE MAIN ONE IS EMPLOYEE ONLY.

WE HAVE ABOUT 558 EMPLOYEES ON THAT. BUT THE NEXT ONE IS EMPLOYEE PLUS CHILDREN.

WE HAVE 146 EMPLOYEES ON EMPLOYEE PLUS CHILDREN.

SO THESE WOULD BE THE. SO THE PROPOSAL IS THAT THE IS DOWN HERE.

SO THESE WOULD BE THE NEW PREMIUMS. THIS IS STILL THE 24-25 REGIONAL AVERAGE.

AND THEN THE PREMIUM DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE AVERAGE.

SO STILL STAYING BELOW THE AVERAGE IN ALL AREAS.

SO STILL TRYING TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE. AGAIN, WITH THAT 24-25 RATE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

TRS HAS NOT ANNOUNCED WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO THEIR RATES.

AND MOST OF THE DISTRICTS ARE ON TRS. THERE ARE A FEW THAT AREN'T, BUT STILL REMAINING BELOW THAT WHILE STILL OFFERING ALL OF THOSE ENHANCED BENEFITS THAT LION CARE OFFERS. THAT OTHER FULLY INSURED PLANS WON'T.

SO OFF TO THE RIGHT HERE WOULD BE THE CHANGES THAT THE EMPLOYEES WOULD SEE ON A MONTHLY BASIS.

SO IF YOU ARE LIKE ON AN EMPLOYEE PLUS CHILD, YOU WOULD SEE $125 DIFFERENCE TO YOUR PREMIUM THAT YOU'RE PAYING EVERY MONTH. SO DO ALL THOSE CHANGES. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS COMING YEAR THAT WOULD AMOUNT TO $450,000.

SO BETWEEN, THAT'S JUST EMPLOYEE ONLY PREMIUMS IS THE 450,000.

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ALL THE PREMIUM CHANGES, INCLUDING WHAT THE DISTRICT WILL PUT IN IN ADDITION TO.

SO BETWEEN THE 800,000 INCLUDES OUR 225? YES, I BELIEVE SO.

IS IT TOO EARLY TO JUMP AHEAD AND SAY, AND SINCE WE'RE LOOKING AT A HOW MUCH WERE YOU LOOKING AT A DEFICIT THIS YEAR? 2 MILLION. WE'RE STILL NOT WE'RE STILL NOT THERE.

WE'RE STILL PUTTING YES, THERE'S A BIG GAP THERE.

YES. AM I GETTING TO IT? I CAN SKIP AHEAD A FEW SLIDES.

IT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE CHANGES IN BEHAVIOR THAT SOME OF THESE CHANGES MAY HAVE AS WELL, WHICH WILL HELP THE PLAN CONTINUE ON.

WELL, YES. I'LL BE QUIET. OKAY. SO THIS IS JUST THE MONTHLY PREMIUM CHANGES.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THESE AMOUNTS OR HOW WE GOT HERE, OR HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? OKAY. WE TALKED LAST TIME. SO THESE ARE THE OTHER SIDE OF HEALTH INSURANCE WHICH IS GOING TO BE YOUR COPAYS, YOUR CO-PAYS FOR GOING TO PRIMARY CARE SPECIALIST, EMERGENCY ROOMS, URGENT CARE, ETC., AND WHERE WE FALL AGAIN, OTHER THAN URGENT CARES, WHERE AGAIN AWAY FROM THE MARKET. AND THEN DEDUCTIBLES AND OUT-OF-POCKET MAX OUT OF POCKET.

MAX. WE BY FAR HAVE THE LOWEST WELL, UNDER THE AVERAGE.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS SCENARIO LAST TIME WHICH WAS INCREASING THE DEDUCTIBLE AND OUT-OF-POCKET MAXES, INCREASING THE PRIMARY CARE COPAY, THE SPECIALIST COPAY, KEEPING AN URGENT CARE COPAY, AND THEN CHANGING AN EMERGENCY ROOM TO WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING, WHICH IS DEDUCTIBLE AND COINSURANCE.

SO WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT WILL HAVE A POSSIBLE SAVINGS OF 465,000.

MR. CHARLES HAD BROUGHT UP, IF WE DID NOT DO THE IF WE SPLIT THE OUT-OF-POCKET MAX FOR BOTH INDIVIDUAL AND FAMILY IN HALF AND NOT INCREASE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE EIGHT AND 16, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO INCREASING IT TO SIX AND 12 INSTEAD.

AND BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS THAT REACH THOSE AMOUNTS, I FELT LIKE THAT MIGHT BE OKAY TO IF TO LEAVE IT.

IT DOES. IT WOULD SAVE THE PLAN WITH THE WAY THAT THAT OUR HEALTH CARE, THE WAY WITH OUR HEALTH SCENARIOS, WITH OUR EMPLOYEES, OUR MEMBERS WAS THIS YEAR.

IT WOULD SAVE THE PLAN 20,000. SO I FELT LIKE, LET'S DO WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE SIX AND 12.

I DID HAVE TO TURN THAT IN JUST FOR BID. NOT FOR ANYTHING TO OUR STOP LOSS.

SO THIS IS WHAT I TURNED IN THIS SCENARIO WITH THE SIX AND EIGHT.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY PROPOSAL IS THAT WE GO WITH THE SIX AND 12 I'M SORRY AND SPLIT THOSE IN HALF.

SO IT'S NOT AS DRAMATIC OF A JUMP IN ONE YEAR WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.

ALSO A LOT GOING ON THIS SLIDE. IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY BETTER TO LOOK AT IT PRINTED.

BUT YOU REALLY CAN LOOK AT IT JUST VISUALLY THE RED LINES IS THE COST EVERY MONTH.

AND THE BLUE LINES IS THE REVENUE COMING IN WHERE WE HAVE FIVE MONTHS LEFT IN THIS YEAR AND WE'RE AT 1.3 MILLION IN THE HOLE AS FAR OR UPSIDE DOWN, RATHER AS FAR AS WHERE THE PLAN IS AT. SO WITH THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO GET TO WAS WITH 1.3. OKAY. 1.3. YEAH, WE DO HAVE FIVE MONTHS LEFT.

WE ARE HITTING SOME STOP LOSS. AND SO AND WE HAVE BEEN GETTING REBATES FROM OUR PHARMACEUTICALS THAT PICKED UP.

THERE'S TWO REBATES THAT YOU CAN SEE. ONE IS 108 AND ONE IS 152.

SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT. I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT JUST QUITE YET.

BUT I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING APRIL'S REPORT BECAUSE WE DID GO OUT AND EDUCATE OUR STAFF. AND I THINK THAT IT QUITE POSSIBLY COULD MAYBE HAVE AN IMPACT ON.

WE MAY NOT SEE IT UNTIL MAY, BUT I THINK WE'LL SEE AN IMPACT ON SOME EDUCATION THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

HOW IS THAT RECEIVED? I THINK IT WAS RECEIVED VERY WELL.

WE HAD WE HAD IF YOU GO TO. I'M REMEMBERING NOW.

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WE WENT OUT TO ALL THE CAMPUSES. WE HAD A, A REALLY POSITIVE EXPERIENCE TALKING TO THEM ABOUT LION CARE, LETTING THEM KNOW THE STATE OF WHERE IT WAS AT.

BUT THEN ALSO GETTING SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK.

WE DID A THOUGHT EXCHANGE AND WE HAD 355 PARTICIPANTS.

SO AT 739 EMPLOYEES ON THE PLAN AND HAVING MORE, ALMOST 50% PARTICIPATE IN OUR THOUGHT EXCHANGE.

WE WERE VERY HAPPY WITH THAT. WE HAD 219 THOUGHTS.

SLIDE NUMBER 39. YEAH. ALMOST THERE. I SEE THE LINE HERE.

AND SO IF YOU SEE OUR THOUGHT EXCHANGE AND YOU FLIP TO THE NEXT ONE, YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE TOP TEN THOUGHTS THAT WERE THERE.

AND THAT IS THAT WAS REALLY TELLING. WE READ ALL 219 THOUGHTS MORE THAN ONCE.

AND WE'RE TAKING ALL OF THEM VERY SERIOUSLY. BUT THE, A LOT IN THE I WANT TO KEEP IT BECAUSE IT BENEFITS MY FAMILY.

LION CARE IS WAY BETTER THAN TRS. IT SAVES ME MONEY.

LET'S KEEP IT. I AM WILLING TO DO THESE NECESSARY THINGS TO KEEP OUR COSTS DOWN.

SO. SO THEY WERE REFERRING TO THE POTENTIAL CHANGES THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT? YES. THEY'RE REFERRING TO EITHER KEEPING LION CARE OR USING LION CARE IN A WAY THAT WOULD SAVE THE PLAN GOING TO LABS THAT WE HAVE AH RELATIONSHIP WITH SO THAT WE HAVE PRICING, GOOD PRICING WITH THEM USING KPP F REE BECAUSE WE DID FIND AREAS THAT WERE NOT USING KPP FREE SOMETIMES.

AND SO JUST WANTING TO BE EDUCATE MORE ABOUT HOW TO USE IT.

SO IT WAS VERY POSITIVE. WE HAD A REALLY WE HAD A REALLY GOOD EXPERIENCE GOING OUT THERE, AND WE PLAN ON DOING A COUPLE OF LION CARE TOURS A YEAR TO KEEP THAT CONVERSATION GOING. SO THE FINANCIAL IMPACT TO THESE PROPOSED CHANGES IS AS FOLLOWS. 859,000 FOR MONTHLY PREMIUM CHANGE, 48,500 FOR DEDUCTIBLE CHANGE, 24,000 OUT OF POCKET MAX AND 48,000 IN CO-PAYS, 320,000 IN EMERGENCY ROOM CHANGES. SO THAT COMES TO ABOUT 1.3 MILLION, WHICH IS NOT AT 2 MILLION FOR SURE.

WHAT WE DON'T WHAT WE CAN'T PREDICT IS WHAT NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS CASES.

WE DEFINITELY HAD MANY NUMBER OF CASES THIS YEAR THAN WE HAD LAST YEAR.

SO THIS IS PART OF WHERE MAYBE WE'RE IN THIS KIND OF HILL AND MAYBE WE'LL COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

WE ALSO DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR CHANGE THIS WILL MAYBE CREATE.

AS FAR AS UTILIZING OUR FREE SERVICES, BECAUSE WHILE OUR CO-PAYS ARE GOING UP FOR PRIMARY CARE, WE HAVE REDEEMED, WHICH IS FREE. IT IS OUR TELEHEALTH.

AND WE FOUND THAT THERE ARE MANY WAYS THAT WE CAN USE REDEEMED FOR FREE WITHOUT HAVING TO GO TO PRIMARY CARE FOR A LOT OF BASIC THINGS LIKE COLDS AND STREP THROAT AND PINKEYE, AND THE LIST REALLY KIND OF GOES ON.

SO LEARNING ABOUT REDI-MD AND NOT JUST LEARNING ABOUT IT.

EVERY TIME I'VE USED REDI-MD, IT'S BECAUSE SOMEONE REMINDED ME, DON'T DO YOU REMEMBER ABOUT REDEEMED? AND I'M LIKE, NO, BECAUSE TELEHEALTH IS REALLY STILL KIND OF NEW.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK OF. THAT'S NOT THE FIRST THING YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU'RE NOT FEELING WELL IS LET ME USE TELEHEALTH.

BUT THAT WAS THE OTHER THING IS WE GOT REALLY GREAT IDEAS.

A TEACHER SAID THAT REDI-MD WAS SO CONVENIENT THAT SHE, LIKE, USED IT IN THE CARPOOL LINE, DROPPING HER DAUGHTER OFF AT SCHOOL. YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY EASY.

IT'S REALLY CONVENIENT. IT'S REALLY FAST. ESPECIALLY IF IT'S FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS.

I USED IT WHEN I KNEW I HAD STREP THROAT, AND IT WAS REALLY HELPFUL FOR ME NOT TO HAVE TO DRIVE TO A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT WHEN I FELT SO BAD.

YES. YEAH. SO PINKEYE WAS ONE THAT WE FOUND WHEN WE WENT OUT ON OUR TOUR.

THAT IS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW IT'S PINKEYE, YOU JUST CALL THE REDI- MD AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GETTING AN APPOINTMENT.

YOU CAN LITERALLY HAVE A PRESCRIPTION WITHIN AN HOUR OF FINDING OUT THAT YOU WOKE UP WITH PINKEYE.

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YES, YES. SO THE BEHAVIOR CHANGE IS WHAT'S NOT BEHAVIOR BASED ON LIKE US EDUCATING.

AND THEN ALSO THE BEHAVIOR OF THAT EMERGENCY ROOM, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE GOING TO THE EMERGENCY ROOMS FOR STREP THROAT AT 20% OF OUR DEDUCTIBLE, YOU KNOW. SO THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF BEHAVIOR CHANGE LIKE THAT, BUT REDEEMED.

WE PAY A FIXED PRICE EVERY MONTH FOR EVERY EMPLOYEE.

SO IF THEY IF YOU GO TO REDEEMED ONCE OR TEN TIMES IN ONE MONTH.

IT COSTS THE SAME. SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO ENCOURAGE EMPLOYEES TO, TO UTILIZE REDI-MD.

IT'S A GREAT SERVICE, VERY CONVENIENT. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE DON'T THINK OF BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, IT'S STILL KIND OF NEW THAT WE'RE GOING TO THE DOCTOR OVER THE COMPUTER, YOU KNOW OR PHONE, EVEN THE COMPUTER IS PROBABLY OLD.

IT'S THROUGH YOUR PHONE. I'M EVEN MORE COMFORTABLE WHEN THEY'RE IN PERSON.

YES, I AGREE, AND I AND A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LIKE, WELL, I UTILIZED REDI-MD FIRST AND THEN REDI-MD WILL TELL YOU, GO AHEAD AND CALL YOUR PRIMARY CARE. BUT IT CAN AT LEAST GET YOU A QUICK ANSWER ON SOMETHING.

MAYBE IF YOU'RE AND IT IS FACE TO FACE IT'S JUST NOT 3D.

RIGHT. YOU KNOW. YEAH IT IS, IT IS A VIDEO, NOT JUST A PHONE.

YEAH. SO THAT IS WHERE THAT IS THE PROPOSAL FOR THE CHANGES OF LION CARE.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR DISCUSSION ON THAT? OKAY. ON TO OUR 25-26 EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION PLAN, WHICH IS OUR PLAN TO RETAIN AND RECRUIT OUR EMPLOYEES. WE'LL FIRST LOOK AT SOME TEACHER PAY SCALE MODELS FIRST.

MR. HOBBS WAS HERE LAST MONTH AT OUR FIRST BUDGET WORKSHOP, AND HE DID GO OVER WHERE WE FALL IN THE PAY SCALE.

AND AS WE LOOK AT THIS PAY SCALE, THIS IS FOR EVERY YEAR.

USUALLY HE SHOWS JUST THE YEAR, THE ZERO YEAR, FIVE YEAR, TEN, YEAR 15, 20, 25 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THIS IS FOR EVERY STEP IN THE SCALE. SO WE CAN REALLY SEE THAT AT THAT FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, IT STARTS TO REALLY SKYROCKET. AT SEVEN, IT GETS ABOVE THE MARKET, AND THEN EVERY YEAR AFTER THAT IT STARTS TO PULL AWAY FROM THAT MARKET AMOUNT.

BUT WE CAN REALLY SEE IN THOSE FIRST FEW YEARS THAT WE'RE REALLY ALSO BELOW THE MARKET.

THAT'S WHAT THAT THAT'S SHOWING. SO MODEL. SO LET ME ALSO BACK UP.

WE LOOKED AT FOUR MODELS LAST TIME, AND I HAVE ONLY BROUGHT BACK THE FIRST TWO BECAUSE AS WE ARE PLANNING FOR 25-26 AND REALLY GETTING THE BUDGET TOGETHER, THE MODELS THREE AND FOUR WERE OUT OF OUR FISCAL ABILITY. SO I HAVE I HAVE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT MODEL ONE TWO, BRINGING THE SAME ONES BACK.

THEY ARE ON THE TEACHER PAY SCALES ARE ON TAB FOUR, SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM.

SO, SO WITH THAT LAST TIME WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE STRATEGY THAT WE'VE TAKEN THE LAST FEW YEARS.

AND THEN ALSO A TRADITIONAL STRATEGY CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, WE'VE I'VE MADE THIS COMMENT THE LAST COUPLE YEARS OF AT SOME POINT, WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO STOP AND LOOK AT IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THE RIGHT THING TO DO IS A SUSTAINABLE HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO DO THIS? AND I'VE COMMITTED TO BRINGING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO THE BOARD.

SO SINCE THIS, SINCE THAT TIME, OUR LAST MEETING I HAD THE CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH PROBABLY A DOZEN TEACHERS TEACHERS WHO ARE CONSIDERING LEAVING THE DISTRICT PRIMARILY FOR, FOR PAY REASONS.

AND MOST OF THOSE TEACHERS FALL WITHIN, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN LESS THAN SIX YEARS.

AND THE CONSISTENT QUESTION THAT I'M ASKING AND HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT REALLY HAS POINTED TO ME THAT TEACHERS ARE, YOU KNOW, WORKING HERE THAT YEAR ZERO IS THEIR FIRST YEAR, YOU KNOW, SO THAT BY THAT THIRD YEAR AND THEY ARE STARTING TO COMPARE AND THEY ARE STARTING TO SAY, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN WAIT TILL TILL YEAR SIX.

YOU KNOW, I EVEN HAD ONE. TELL ME. WELL, I CAN JUST COME BACK IN THREE YEARS IF YOU KNOW WHEN, WHEN THE PAY GOES UP. SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE LEFT THE TRADITIONAL PAY OPTION BECAUSE IT DOES HELP US ON THAT YEAR 0 TO 5.

BUMP THAT UP A LITTLE QUICKER. BECAUSE WHILE IT IS CERTAINLY WORKED IN YEAR SIX AND ABOVE OF HONORING OUR, OUR VETERAN STAFF, I'VE HEARD TIME AND TIME AGAIN FROM OUR VETERAN STAFF THAT THEY NOTICE THAT STRATEGY.

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YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, I DO FEEL THAT I NEED TO SHARE THIS NEW INFORMATION WITH THE BOARD BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY HAVE TO CONSIDER.

YOU KNOW, WE ARE AN OUTLIER. MOST DISTRICTS ARE RECRUITING HEAVILY IN THAT ZERO YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, AND BY DOING THAT, YEARS ONE, TWO, THREE AND FOUR ARE HIGHER THAN US AS THE MAP OR THE CHART CLEARLY SHOWS.

YOU KNOW, SO I JUST FEEL LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO REALLY START TO CONSIDER AS WE THINK ABOUT A PAY INCREASE PLAN AND THE STRATEGY BEHIND WHICHEVER ONE WE APPROVE. AND TO NICOLE'S POINT, YOU KNOW, WE PROVIDE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS, TWO DIFFERENT MODELS.

AND YOU'LL SEE THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS HERE IN A SECOND.

BUT A COUPLE OF THE OTHER ONES WERE JUST WELL BEYOND WHAT WE COULD, COULD REALLY AFFORD.

EVEN ONE OF THEM WILL STILL HAVE US IN A DEFICIT, BUT STILL IT'S LESS THAN WHAT THE OTHER TWO OPTIONS WERE.

SO WE'LL LOOK AT EACH OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS AGAIN, BUT IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL THAN WE DID LAST MONTH.

SO MODEL ONE IS UP TO A 3.5% PAY INCREASE FOR TEACHERS.

THIS IS JUST A TEACHER SCALE. THE TEACHER STARTING SALARY WOULD BE 54,500, WHICH IS UP FROM THE CURRENT STARTING SALARY OF 53,600.

ALL YEARS WOULD RECEIVE A GPI OF $1,200, BUT THEN THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE YEARS THAT ARE STARTING AS A CURRENT YEAR, ONE UP TO A CURRENT YEAR SEVEN. SO THEY WOULD GET A 2.2 TO 3.5, AND YOU CAN SEE THE DETAIL OF IT ON TAB FOUR, MODEL ONE. IT LITERALLY IT'LL SHOW YOU IT'LL WALK YOU ALL THE WAY ACROSS.

IF YOU'RE A CURRENT YEAR FOUR AND YOU MAKE 54,675, YOU WOULD GET A 1200 PLUS A 425 ADJUSTMENT AND SO ON. SO THAT'S HOW YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SCALE AND SEE WHERE THE BASE GPI IS AND THEN THE ADDITIONAL THAT MODEL WOULD, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE GREEN DOTTED LINE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE.

IT PULLS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY FROM THE ORANGE, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT LINE IN THOSE FRONT FEW YEARS HITTING THAT TARGET OF WORKING ON THOSE FIRST FEW YEARS. STILL BELOW THE CURRENT MARKET BUT TRYING TO MAKE SOME STRIDES TOWARD IT IN THOSE AREAS.

OF COURSE, THE GREEN DOTTED LINE UP IN THE HIGHER YEARS STAYS ABOVE THE DO WE DO WE HAVE WAS IT IN THE I FORGET WHICH TAB IT WAS THAT SHOWS THE ACTUAL STEPS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THOSE NUMBERS FROM THIS ONE. TAB FOUR.

TAB FOUR. OKAY. THANK YOU. SORRY. THE SECOND MODEL, WHICH IS JUST IN THE SAME TAB BEHIND THAT FIRST ONE IS MODEL TWO.

IT HAS UP TO A 4.2% GENERAL PAY INCREASE FOR TEACHERS.

SO THE STARTING SALARY WOULD AGAIN BE 54,500.

THAT WOULD BE THE SAME. ALL OF THE GPI WOULD STILL BE THE SAME.

$1,200 BASE. BUT THEN ALL OF THE YEARS WOULD GET A ADDITIONAL ADJUSTMENTS AS SHOWN IN THE THE PRINTOUT. SO YOU'D BE ABLE TO SEE KIND OF GROUPING THEM BY YEARS AND GIVING MORE OF AN ADJUSTMENT THE MORE YEARS OF SERVICE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

SO THIS WOULD BE WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

NOW. THE SAME TYPE OF MODEL.

ON THIS ONE. THIS IS WHERE I'M SORRY. I DID WANT TO JUST TO MENTION ON, YOU KNOW, OPTION ONE IS AN EXAMPLE.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY COULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF THAT 1200, MAYBE YOU BUMP IT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE 14 OR 15 AND MAKE THAT CONSISTENT.

WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE MODELS AS WELL FOR, FOR THE BOARD.

BUT WE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SHOW YOU TWO DIFFERENT STRATEGIES. SO THESE TWO ARE THEY, ARE THEY BOTH SUSTAINABLE BASED ON OUR BUDGET WE'RE GOING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM LINE NUMBERS IN A SECOND. I MEAN RIGHT NOW IF THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING,

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YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO FUND BALANCE, WHICH ISN'T SUSTAINABLE.

WHAT THIS SECOND MODEL DOES IS YOU CAN AGAIN SEE THE ORANGE LINE IS OUR CURRENT.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE ACROSS THE WHOLE THE WHOLE ORANGE LINE, THAT GREEN LINE HAS JUST PULLED FURTHER AWAY FOR THE WHOLE SCALE.

AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHER ONE THAT WAS IN MADE AN EMPHASIS ON THE ON THE FRONT END OF THE SCALE.

FOR OUR CLERICAL AND PARAPROFESSIONAL PAY PLANS, THESE PAY PLANS.

THE NEXT THREE PAY PLANS ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE TEACHER PAY SCALE.

THERE IS NOT A STEP FOR EVERY YEAR. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR CLERICAL AND PARAPROFESSIONAL STAFF, THESE ARE GOING TO BE OUR INSTRUCTIONAL AIDES, OUR ADMINISTRATIVE CLERICAL POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE BOTH AT THE CAMPUS, AT THE DISTRICT, IN OUR DEPARTMENTS. THE BLUE BOX, THE AVERAGE DISTRICT PAY AND THEN THE RED TRIANGLE IS THE MARKET PAY. SO IN ORDER TO TRY TO GET CLOSER TO THOSE RED TRIANGLES, THE FIRST THING THAT WE WOULD DO IS MOVE THE WHOLE PAY SCALE ON BOTH OUR WHAT WE WHAT WE CALL AS OUR MIN MID MAX PAY SCALES. SO THAT WAY A, WE CAN HAVE A MORE COMPETITIVE STARTING PAY.

IF WE HAVE A VACANCY, AND B OUR MIDPOINT IS MOVED UP.

SO THE GPI THAT WE GIVE IS ON THE HIGHER THE CLOSER TO THE MARKET VALUE.

THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF POSITIONS THAT ARE ON THIS PAY SCALE THE INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPORT POSITIONS.

WE HAVE REALLY MADE STRIDES. WE'RE ABOVE THE MARKET.

WE PAY ABOVE THE MARKET AT 103% ON OUR INSTRUCTIONAL STAFF.

OUR CLERICAL AND TECHNICAL WE HAVE SEEN HAS EVERY YEAR KIND OF FALLEN A LITTLE BIT AND A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY FROM THAT 95% MARK, WHICH IS OUR TARGET. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE MOVE ALL OF THE MIDPOINTS, WE MOVE ALL THE MIN, MID AND MAXIMUMS AND THEN WE TAKE THAT NEW MIDPOINT AND WE COME OVER AND WE DO A GPI, EITHER 2% OR 3% OF THAT NEW MIDPOINT RANGE. THESE ARE HOURLY RANGES.

AND THE COST OF A 2% GPI FOR THIS GROUP OF EMPLOYEES IS 121,000, WHILE A 3% IS 182,000.

SO IT'S $60,000 MORE TO DO THAT. 3% GPI FOR THIS THE INDIVIDUALS ON THIS PLAN.

AUXILIARY PLAN WORKS MUCH THE SAME WAY. EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.

THIS IS FOR AUXILIARY STAFF, WHICH IS GOING TO BE IN OUR FOOD SERVICE TEAMS AND OUR MAINTENANCE TEAMS. THIS ONE WE HAVE MOVED RIGHT BELOW THE 95% MARK.

SO WHAT HAPPENS HERE IS THAT WE WOULD WE INCREASE THESE SCALES A LITTLE BIT MORE SO WE CAN SEE THESE 2% INCREASES.

ESPECIALLY IN THE THE ONE IN THE SPECIFIC AREAS OF THAT PAY SCALE THAT ARE BELOW THE MARKET.

AND THEN WE TAKE AGAIN THAT THAT NEW MIDPOINT TO FORMULATE THE RAISE OF EITHER 2 OR 3%.

THIS GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, IT'S A $22,000 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FOR FOR THE DISTRICT, BETWEEN A 2% AND A 3% RAISE.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THE ADMIN PROFESSIONAL PAY PLAN.

THESE ARE ALL PROFESSIONALS. ALL ADMINISTRATORS ACROSS THE DISTRICT, CAMPUS AND DEPARTMENT LEVEL.

AGAIN, THE BLUE BOX IS WHAT THE DISTRICT PAYS.

THE RED TRIANGLE IS WHAT THE MARKET PAYS. WHERE THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD BE IN THESE CATEGORIES, WHICH WOULD BE CENTRAL ADMINISTRATION, CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION, AND THEN PROFESSIONAL STAFF. PROFESSIONAL STAFF IS GOING TO BE LIKE YOUR SPEECH LANGUAGE PATHOLOGIST, YOUR DIAGS COUNSELORS, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THEN CAMPUS ADMINISTRATION AND THEN OF COURSE, CENTRAL ADMINISTRATION. THESE ARE DAILY RATES, NOT HOURLY RATES.

AND SO WE TAKE THOSE DAILY RATES. WE MOVE THEM OVER IN THE WE MOVE THEM TO THE MARKET IN THE PAY PLAN.

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IT'S $102,000 DIFFERENCE IN THIS GROUP TO MOVE FROM 2% TO 3%.

THE COST OF MODEL ONE, WHICH WOULD BE THE TEACHERS, THE STANDARD, IT WAS THE $1,200 AND THEN A LITTLE AND THEN SOME ADJUSTMENTS FOR YEARS.

CURRENT YEARS ONE THROUGH SEVEN. WOULD THIS IS A 2% GPI, WHICH MEANS THE 2% WOULD ALSO BE ACROSS THOSE ADMINISTRATIVE AND ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT SCALES.

ALSO, WHILE THE TEACHERS WILL GO UP TO 3.5%, ALL OTHER SCALES WILL GET 2%, AND THIS WOULD COST A LITTLE UNDER $1 MILLION, 956,000, ROUGHLY FOR THIS MODEL. MODEL NUMBER TWO IS A LITTLE BIT MORE AT A LITTLE BIT OVER $1 MILLION. AND THIS IS WHERE THE REST OF THE SCALES WOULD GET A 3%.

I'M SORRY. ALL THE SCALES WOULD GET A 2% GPI, BUT THE TEACHER ADJUSTMENTS WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

ALREADY AT THE SCENARIOS. OKAY. SO THIS IS WITH HOUSE BILL TWO.

I TOOK, IT'S A LOT SHORTER BECAUSE I TOOK OUT THE MODELS THREE AND FOUR, BECAUSE ONCE I STARTED HITTING A DEFICIT, WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND TOOK THOSE RIGHT OFF. SO EVEN WITH HOUSE BILL TWO NOT HAVING GONE UP TO COMMITTEE WITH MODEL ONE, WE HAVE 37,000. AND WITH MODEL TWO, WE'RE START GO AND WE START GOING INTO A DEFICIT.

SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THE BUDGET. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO REFINE IT.

WE'RE STILL LOOKING UNDER EVERY SINGLE ROCK AND EVERY CORNER TO SEE HOW WE CAN MOST EFFICIENTLY RUN THE BUDGET NEXT YEAR.

BUT THAT MODEL TWO CURRENTLY WHERE IT STANDS, IT WOULD PUSH US OVER INTO A DEFICIT OF 248,000.

AND THAT WAS WITH THE BEST OUTCOME FROM HOUSE BILL TWO.

YES, THAT WAS WITH Y EAH WHERE HOUSE BILL TWO CURRENTLY FALLS WITH THEM IF THERE AREN'T ANY CHANGES.

KEEP IN MIND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE SENATE.

I EXPECT THAT THE SENATE VERSION WILL COME WITH MORE STRINGS AND, YOU KNOW ATTACHED TO IT, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IS OUR KIND OF BEST ESTIMATE BASED ON THE CURRENT FORM OF HOUSE BILL TWO.

I THINK SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED IN HEARING FROM THE BOARD.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT 248 NUMBER, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE RESPONSE? WHAT'S THE AS MS. WEISER MENTIONED WE WERE CONTINUING TO SCRUB THE BUDGET LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS? WE ALSO HAVE A BACKLOG OF REQUESTS ACROSS THE DISTRICT THAT ARE THAT ARE STILL PENDING AS WELL.

KIND OF LIKE TO GET A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK ON, YOU KNOW, THE TAKE ON THE CURRENT STATUS OF THAT.

AS MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE EVERYBODY A BIG RAISE AND THAT WOULD MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.

I THINK WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF MONEY AND BUDGETING.

AND I THINK WE STILL HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HEALTH INSURANCE.

YEAH. AND THERE IS AN INCREASE IN MODEL ONE. I MEAN, THERE'S DEFINITELY IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS MODEL TWO.

QUARTER MILLION. JUST ON THAT WE. START ADDING WHAT POSSIBLY COULD SUFFER MORE LOSSES THAN THE HEALTH INSURANCE.

YOU KNOW DEFINITELY. THAT'S IN THE BACK OF MY MIND AS WELL.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT STABLE. BECOME STABLE. HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT KIND OF POTENTIAL WE HAVE FOR STUDENTS

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AND THE ISSUE WITH VOUCHERS THAT PEOPLE SEEM TO FORGET THAT.

I MEAN THERE'S A BUDGET FOR THAT AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

IT'S NOT THAT ANYONE WHO WANTS ONE IS GOING TO GET IT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHAT THE FISCAL NOTE SAYS IS 2 TO 4% ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS.

SO WHO KNOWS WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BALLOON INTO IN 20 YEARS.

BUT FOR THE SHORT TERM YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT'S IT'S EXPECTED TO BE A MASSIVE NUMBER, SO IT WON'T AFFECT OUR ADA A WHOLE LOT. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO HAVE SOME IMPACT.

IT WILL HAVE SOME, I'M SURE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE I WOULDN'T THINK THAT IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, IN A YEAR OR TWO, IT'S GOING TO BE A MASSIVE NUMBER.

BUT 20 YEARS FROM NOW, WHO KNOWS? YEAH, THINGS LOOK VERY DIFFERENT ACROSS OUR STATE.

IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS, TOO, WHY WE WENT WITH THE LOW SCENARIO FOR THE DEMOGRAPHERS.

IS TO THAT'S AN UNPREDICTABLE AREA. AND THE GROWTH THAT WE'VE SEEN THIS YEAR PLUS THAT COMING, WE'LL GO WITH THE LOW SCENARIO ON THE DEMOGRAPHER.

I THINK A BIG A BIG THING. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A 93% ATTENDANCE LIKE THAT IS JUST AN AREA THAT WE HAVE TO IMPROVE ON.

MS. [INAUDIBLE] SITTING IN THE ROOM. AND I THINK SHE'S AROUND 96% AT PLUM CREEK.

AND NEXT YEAR I'M SURE WE'LL MIRROR THAT AT BORCHERT LOOP, YOU KNOW.

BUT ACROSS THE DISTRICT THAT IS NOT THE NORM ACROSS OUR CAMPUSES.

AND THAT IS REALLY HURTING OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE ALL THE RESOURCES TO OUR KIDS BECAUSE THEIR ENROLLED. BUT WHEN THEY DON'T COME TO SCHOOL, WE DON'T RECEIVE THE FUNDING. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S A HUGE CONCERN RIGHT NOW. I THINK AT LOCKHART HIGH SCHOOL ON A DAILY EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 16, 18% OF THE KIDS NOT SHOWING UP TO SCHOOL.

BUT WE DON'T GET TO CUT OUR BUDGET BY 20% EVERY DAY.

WE STILL HAVE TO PAY ALL THE STAFF. AND RIGHT NOW, IT IS A MAJOR CONCERN ON THAT STUDENT ATTENDANCE NUMBER.

SO THAT'S WITH HOUSE BILL TWO. THIS IS WITHOUT HOUSE BILL TWO.

YEAH THAT'S A PROBLEM. YEAH. I DIDN'T MEAN TO.

I WASN'T EXPECTING YOU TO SAY THAT. I DIDN'T MEAN TO LAUGH SO HARD. I'M SORRY. BUT IT BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

IT IS. WITH THE OPENING OF BORCHERT LOOP. WITH ALL OF THE COSTS.

NOT EVEN JUST WITH OPENING A SCHOOL. JUST WITH MAINTAINING OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WITHOUT A RAISE, WE ARE AT A DEFICIT OF 1.9 MILLION WITHOUT HOUSE BILL TWO.

SO BUT LIKE I SAID, EVEN WITHOUT OPENING A SCHOOL, WE'VE GOT INCREASE IN INSURANCE AND EVERYTHING. TRANSPORTATION. TRANSPORTATION. CUSTODIAL.

WELL, AND THAT KIND OF BRINGS ME BACK TO, YOU KNOW, MODEL ONE.

NOW THAT WE JUST PASSED THE BOND, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER OR ANOTHER MIDDLE SCHOOL.

SO I JUST DON'T IF WE SET WITH MODEL TWO, THAT SETS THE BOTTOM LINE FOR NEXT YEAR AND THEN THE YEAR AFTER THAT, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER MIDDLE SCHOOL. LIKE I THINK IT JUST STARTS COMPOUNDING ITSELF WHERE IF WE'RE MORE ON THE CONSERVATIVE SIDE, WE KIND OF HOLD STEADY A LITTLE BIT BETTER. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

I AGREE. THE POINT WOULD BE THAT YOU ARE VALIDATING.

YOU ARE GIVING NOVICE TEACHERS, THE TEACHERS FROM 0 TO 7.

YOU'RE GIVING THEM AN INCREASE BECAUSE YOU WANT THEM TO FEEL VALIDATED.

BUT AGAIN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO WORK WITHIN OUR PARAMETERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY MOVING MORE TOWARD A NEGATIVE BUDGET BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY UNKNOWNS AT THIS POINT.

AND SO. ABSOLUTELY. THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND SO WITH THIS BEING SAID AS MUCH HOPE AND FAITH THAT I WANT TO HAVE IN HOUSE BILL TWO, WE DO HAVE TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THAT. THERE MAY NOT BE A HOUSE BILL TWO THAT MAKES IT ALL THE WAY, ESPECIALLY THE WAY THAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW. THEY COULD DO A LOT OF CHANGES.

THEY COULD MAKE NO CHANGES. THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.

BUT IF THEY DON'T, WE ARE STARTING AS A TEAM TO FIGURE THIS 1.9 MILLION OUT.

AND AND WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE. SO BETWEEN NOW AND JUNE 2ND, WHICH IS OUR NEXT BUDGET WORKSHOP, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CHARGE OF OUR TEAM TO REALLY TO REALLY TO REALLY SEE WHAT WE'LL, WATCH HOUSE BILL TWO AND THEN REALLY COME UP WITH A

[01:05:08]

AND OF COURSE A LOT OF DISTRICTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN FACING THAT. THEY'VE BEEN DOWNSIZING.

THEY'VE BEEN ELIMINATING POSITIONS, THEY'VE BEEN. BECAUSE TWO YEARS AGO THEY GAVE TOO MUCH OF A RAISE.

AND THAT WAS THEIR IN THAT STANDARD THAT THEY'VE SET THAT BOTTOM LINE AND THEY CAN'T KEEP UP WITH IT.

CAN'T GET OUT OF IT. YEAH. LAST YEAR OUR CURRENT YEAR EVERY SCHOOL DISTRICT AROUND US THAT IS OUR SIZE OR LARGER IS AT A DEFICIT BUDGET, ACCEPT US, YOU KNOW BUT.

AND I LIKE THAT WE CAN TELL PEOPLE THAT WE'RE NOT IN DEFICIT.

AND I THINK THAT'S. YEAH, THAT IS A POINT THAT WE'VE HAD GREAT STAFF HERE THAT HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF LOOKING AT THE BUDGET AND BEING RECOGNIZED FOR YOUR FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, AND WE AGREE WITH THAT.

OH, IT'S A TEAM. IT'S A TEAM A TEAM. IT'S A TEAM EFFORT AND SUPPORT.

TRUST ME. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU. I'M PROUD TO SAY IT ALSO.

SO LIKE I SAID, WE WILL WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THE 1.9 SHOULD HOUSE BILL TWO NOT MAKE IT THROUGH? AND THEN ALSO SHOULD IT CHANGE IF THEY GO BACK TO THE $200, IF THEY GO TO 350 INSTEAD OF 395? I MEAN, THERE'S WE DEFINITELY WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT OUR BACKUP PLANS ARE FOR, FOR GETTING THE BUDGET BALANCED.

YEAH, I THINK THERE'S 1.9 MILLION REASONS TO CALL SENATOR CREIGHTON.

SENATOR ZAFFIRINI TO URGE THE SENATE TO TAKE ACTION ON SCHOOL FUNDING.

ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S OUR ASSIGNMENT. GET ON THE PHONE.

YEAH. OKAY. WE'LL GO THROUGH THE TAX RATE REAL QUICK BECAUSE WE WILL BE BRINGING A PROPOSED HEARING DATE FOR, FOR THE TAX RATE. THE PROJECTED TAX RATE FOR NEXT YEAR IS 64.9 PENNIES, WHICH IS A 4.79 ALMOST FIVE CENT PENNY DECREASE TO THE TAX RATE WHEN WE PULL OUR TOTAL TAX RATE TOGETHER, WHICH IS INCLUDING OUR INS TAX RATE, WE ARE AT 90.6 $0.07, WHICH IS AGAIN THAT 4.79 PENNIES LESS, EVEN WITH THE SUCCESSFUL PASSAGE OF THE 2025 BOND, WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP THAT INS TAX RATE THE SAME.

SO AT THIS TIME, WITH WHAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE LAW, THE TAXPAYER WILL SEE A ALMOST FIVE CENT DECREASE. EVEN WITH THAT, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO UP BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO GO DOWN, NOT BECAUSE OF THE BOND, BUT CORRECT. YES, THERE WILL BE A TAX RATE DECREASE IN CURRENT LAW.

NOW THEY'RE TRYING TO COMPRESS IT EVEN MORE. SO WE'LL SEE WHAT THAT WHAT THAT OUTCOME.

I THINK IT'LL GO DOWN EVEN MORE. MORE THAN THAT.

THAT'S A TALK ABOUT RAISING THE HOMESTEAD. YES, SIR.

SO 140. THAT'S THE CURRENT TALK. IS THAT PASSED? NOT YET. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT. AND THEN ALSO COMPRESSING THE RATE AGAIN AND BUYING THAT DOWN.

YOU KNOW, MY WHICH I THINK IS, IS FINE. IT'S A IT'S A GOOD THING.

IT'S JUST MY WORRY. IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED TWO YEARS AGO WHERE THEY DID THAT AND SAID THAT THAT WAS NEW FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS, WHICH A DOLLAR DOESN'T EVER REACH SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT THAT THEY DON'T DO THAT AND SAY THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING MORE FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS FROM BUYING DOWN THE SCHOOL TAX RATE THAT THEY KNOW DOES NOT HELP BUY A PENCIL FOR A KID.

YEAH. DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, BECAUSE I'VE HEARD A LOT OF CONTRARY INFORMATION THAT.

SO THE TAX RATE IS NOT GOING UP. NO, THE TAX RATE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN 18% INCREASE IN OUR TAXES.

NO, SIR. NOW, YOUR APPRAISAL MAY GO UP 18%. WELL YOUR APPRAISAL, YEAH.

IT'S GOING TO GO UP EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THE STATE CONTROLS THAT.

RIGHT. BUT I THINK IF PEOPLE LOOK AT THE PAST, THEIR PAST HISTORY, THEY'RE GOING TO SEE THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TAX RATE HAS NOT GONE UP, BUT WE STILL GET SLAMMED EVERY TIME WE HAVE ANY KIND OF ANYTHING GOING ON.

THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING OUT OF THE WOODWORK TO TALK ABOUT HOW WHAT A BAD JOB WE'RE DOING AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP INCREASING TAXES AND WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. WELL, I DON'T CONTROL THE I DON'T CONTROL THE APPRAISAL AT ALL.

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THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IT'S GONE UP BY $10 ON AVERAGE FOR THE AVERAGE TAX BILL IN LOCKHART ISD.

THAT'S THE FACTS. YEAH. OKAY. SO WITH THAT INS RATE HOLDING THE SAME.

WE STILL HAVE A DECREASE. OKAY. THE NEXT STEPS IS THAT THE MAY 19TH SCHOOL BOARD MEETING, WE WILL REVIEW THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE ON THE PROPOSED LOWER TAX RATE FOR 2025. ON JUNE 2ND, WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL CALLED BUDGET WORKSHOP, WHERE WE WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT HOUSE BILL TWO AND BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE.

OR AND IF WE DO, WE CAN APPROVE OUR 2526 EMPLOYEE COMPENSATION PLAN.

OR WE MAY HAVE TO WAIT, CONTINUE TO WAIT ON THE LEGISLATURE AND TAKE THAT ON JUNE 23RD.

ON JUNE 23RD, WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR OUR TAX RATE AND OUR BUDGET ADOPTION.

WE WILL NOT ADOPT OUR TAX RATE UNTIL AUGUST THOUGH, BUT WE WILL ADOPT OUR BUDGET ON JUNE 23RD, I THINK. SOMETHING TO NOTE AS WELL AS WE CONTINUE TO WAIT AND WE LOOK AT THAT JUNE 2ND OR JUNE 23RD.

YOU KNOW, ANOTHER THING THAT WE CAN DO IN JUNE 23RD IS APPROVE COMPENSATION PLAN ONLY IF CERTAIN THINGS HAPPEN AT THE LEGISLATURE. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL GIVE US THE ABILITY TO NOT DO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE, BUT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE RETROACTIVE IF THE STATE LEGISLATURE WERE TO DO SOMETHING AT A LATER DATE.

YEAH, WE HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE. YES. CORRECT.

RIGHT. YES, YES. JUST THE SAME THING. YES. OUR PAYROLL DEPARTMENT LOVES RETROACTIVE PAY.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PRESENTATION? THANK YOU, MR. WEISER. MY PLEASURE. THANK YOU.

MR. GUYTON HAS A QUESTION. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR, COMMUNICATION ACTION A, CONSIDER AND OR APPROVE STAFFING FOR THE

[Consider and/or Approve Staffing for the 2025-2026 School Year]

THERE'S NOTHING NEW TO ADD RIGHT? JUST TO. I MEAN, BUT WHY IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT? WHAT? NO, IT'S THE I LISTED THEM UNDER TAB SIX, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE MONTH BEFORE SO THAT YOU CAN ALSO JUST SEE EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE TAKEN. BUT I HAVE THE LIST OF THE POSITIONS THAT ARE FOR APPROVAL TONIGHT WE TALKED ABOUT THE SPECIAL ED STAFF FOR ELEMENTARY AND THEN THE LDMC, AND THEN OUR LEVER LEADER FOR A TOTAL OF $538,500.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BOARD? IF NOT, WE'RE IN MOTION. I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE POSITIONS AND STIPENDS AS PRESENTED FOR THE 2025 2026 FISCAL YEAR. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. WE HAVE A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 6 TO 0. THANK YOU. ITEM FOUR B, CONSIDER AND OR APPROVED BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

[Consider and/or Approve Budget Amendments]

THEY JUST NEED TO MOVE BETWEEN FUNCTIONS. AND THEY'RE WANTING TO BUY SOME THINGS.

SO WE JUST IT'S A VERY SMALL LITTLE BUDGET AMENDMENT.

IT'S USUALLY IN CONSENT. BUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE CONSENT AT THIS MEETING IT'S IN A IT SHOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET.

IT IS. IS IT IN THERE. OKAY. OKAY. GOOD. THOUSAND DOLLARS.

OKAY. YEAH. IT'S JUST TO MOVE BETWEEN FUNCTIONS. IT'S NOT ADDING FOR TONIGHT.

OKAY. MOVE TO THE TO, I MOVED TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. ANY MORE COMMENTS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED? PASSES 6 TO 0 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.